Subject: Post-Metal
Posted: 18 Apr 2024 at 12:55pm
We are actively planning for that Mike, but new subs depend on M@X being around.
Sheavy wrote: |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
He lives!! How the heck are ya? Just read some old PSIKE posts from 2017 when you were still in action :) Hope all is well |
adg211288 wrote: Personally I have to confess to being largely ignorant about sludge metal in general. It's one of those genres I have enjoyed to some extent but could claim no real familiarity with. I can name only three bands that I can say I'm an actual fan of and I don't expect any of them come under what you've talking about here: Cult of Luna, (early) Mastodon & Kylesa. |
Bosh66 wrote: All sludge should still have hardcore elements of course but yes I love the dirtier more hardcore sludge bands out there. And there’s a lot of them. In terms of calling out sludgecore separately, we mention it as an inclusive style in hardcore for those hardcore bands that incorporate elements of doom without becoming fully metal. Those that are metal are obviously under sludge. I usually describe those as sludge metal / hardcore in the bio. |
Bosh66 wrote: Nice review of the 16 album btw! |
adg211288 wrote: I watched the first two episodes so far and am loving it! I think if you do not know the games then maybe this may seem a bit weird but if you have played them them this captures them so well and the sets and props are completely accurate to Fallout 4's designs. It is good as well for being its own story and not just trying to adapt one of the games though it is still very much in the spirit of the games. |
UMUR wrote: Welcome to MMA Scott |
16 – Curves That Kick
16 are a Sludge Metal group that have been kicking out theirown unique flavor of Sludge since the inception of the genre, playing in thenot-really-recognized-as-a-subgenre of Sludgecore, basically Sludge Metal thatsticks close to what it formed from. Heavy, downtuned, slow-ass Black Sabbathand Doom Metal infused Hardcore Punk. Formed in 1991 and still rolling strongtoday, with only a brief, few year break in the mid-noughties. 16 are a groupthat, IMHO, should be talked about more and in the same breath as other earlysludge metallers like Eyehategod, Crowbar, Grief etc. I have suspicions this isdown to their own brew of influences and sounds, 16 really don’t sound like anyother Sludge band. To start 16 play at a much faster tempo than most, keeping apace similarly to Buzzoven. They also have a healthy dose of noise rock, altrock/metal, post hardcore, and even a tad of an early Metalcore sound I daresay, in addition to the typical hardcore influence sludge metal has. Anotherpotential hurdle for your average metalhead is the fx ladened vocals, which arenearly drowned out in static and occasionally reverb. Lyrically 16 often stickclose to typical Sludge Metal inspirations, drugs, depression, violence, andgeneral misanthropy, but they aren’t afraid to delve into some weirdness. Checkthe song Amish for some Jack Kerouac beat poetry.
The mailman comes
When I'm home
Acrobat
Undertow
The wooden door
Broken bone
Common growth
Telephone
Or Joe The Cat, unsurprisingly about a cat (Melvinsinspired?).
This debut album from 16 is everything you would want fromSludgecore. It’s all got a clearer production than most other Sludge acts ofthe time, but it doesn’t diminish the crackhead energy 16 have. Unwaveringlyaggressive, super heavy and chunky riffs all over the place, with intermittentflourishes and breaks of guitar scrawl. The PH influence makes for someinteresting song dynamics, there’s much more activity between guitar, bass, anddrums, more stop and go, than typical of this style. Special mention to thebass, which is that super funky, fat, and floppy bass that was everywhere inthe early 90s.
Hailing from the deep south of Atlanta, Georgia, andappropriately were signed to Southern Lord, Dead In The Dirt’s sole fulllength, The Blind Hole, is a crushing, catastrophic slab of grindingPowerviolence. DITD deal in fairly typical PV lyrically and sonically speaking,but don’t even think for a second this is meant as insult. Frequent and Extremestart and stop tempo shifts, even within the confines of 60 second or lesssongs, often punctuated and preceded by squalls of feedback. Downtuned growling,grinding guitars thunder away to merciless but tight Hardcore drumming and blastbeating. Occasionally settling into a more metal inspired mid-tempo or thrashgroove, and some songs drop entirely into disgusting filthy Sludge Metal (WillIs The War and Halo Crown). As could be guessed from the album title, nay, bandname, the lyrics all tend towards the introspective and unwaveringlynihilistic, often with political or social subtext. These are handled by dual vocalists,Bo Orr, also on Bass, and Blake Connally, also on Guitar. Dual vocalists meanswe are treated to differing delivery styles, one a Death Metal growl, and theother a Hardcore Punk styled full on shriek. Production wise it’s all veryclear and clean, none of the dirt and grime, nor aggression and rawness islost.
A beautiful, maniacal not quite 24 minute assault.
Toadliquor – Back In The Hole
Aaannnnddd the winner of most unexpected 2024 album releasegoes to Toadliquor. 31 years after they dropped one of the most vile, angry,and unique Sludge/Doom metal albums, the legends return with their sophomorerelease Back In The Hole. So what has changed in the world of Toadliquor’ssound? Not all that much. Vocalist Rex doesn’t quite hit the high, almost earpiercing, throat ripping shriek of old. It’s more of a raspy yell or scream,not quite as powerful, but still communicates Toadliquor’s angst and nihilism. Thesongs are also (relatively speaking) tighter, and more concise. Less prone todroning off and dropping into feedback, but don’t worry, Toadliquor have lostnone of their angry, brutal, misanthropic, crushing heaviness. Every song isprecipitous, monolithic Doom leaning Sludge Metal.
However, there is something new in the Toadliquor arsenal,giving this album an experimental bent at times. This being a scattering ofvarious electronic, psychedelic, or almost Post Metal interludes or inflectionsacross most songs. On Recained, Toadliquor delve into a trippy, psychedelicmidsection, filled with synth drones and electric pulses, ponderous reverbeddrumming, squealing and muted saxophone, and some drowned out vocals. Thenamesake song and album closer, Back In The Hole, opens with some somber,drifting and depressive Post Rock guitar and synth, before slowly transitioninginto the Sludge/Doom pounding and riffing, while the almost melodic guitarparts soar above.
This is an excellent return to the spotlight for Toadliquor.