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Metal Music Lounge : Most Important Albums Suggestions

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Author:Kingcrimsonprog
Subject: Most Important Albums Suggestions
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 2:13pm

Originally posted by Vic

I was scrolling through your list and bumped into the Slayer albums. You are missing two very important pieces there, their first two albums, which have influenced and marked the whole of every extreme music (esp. Hell Awaits is ridiculously important).

If Testament has two albums listed, I would argue it would have to be The Legacy and The Gathering. The latter also marks the old school thrash metal revival, the aweakening of the beast sort to speak, that is the first monumental thrash metal album in the new era. Also provided a blueprint.

I was very surprised to see Walls of Jericho missing, monumental and highly influential. It essentially sums up the entire German scene of the mid-80s, balancing between speed, power and thrash. 

Likewise, I was surprised to see Under Jolly Roger, which although it contains the s/t hymn and is largely considered the start of the piracy years, it's not their best album, not by a longshot. I would sincerely suggest you include Port Royal, if you have to have only one album but I would also say that a proper list should at the very least include Death or Glory. Helloween/Running Wild and Rage are the exact equivalent of Kreator/Sodom/Destruction for speed/power metal.

You are missing Metal Church's debut, which is extremely iconic and also a masterpiece. 

Ah, and looking at your power metal list, I have extreme reservations. Two Savatage albums only? You can't ignore Sirens or Gutter Ballet and include some Finnish symphonic band that influenced nobody. Same thing for Vicious Rumors, at least get Digital Dictator somewhere in there. My favorite Blind Guardian IS Somewhere Far Beyond but if you include just one album, it has to be Imaginations. But I would also include Nightfall... Stratovarius should be covered by Dreamspace and one of the following (Fourth Dimension, Episode, Visions). It's wrong to ignore the first three Gamma Ray albums, especially Heading for Tomorrow and Insanity and Genius. No World Order is certainly nice but nothing special in the history of metal. At all. You are missing Holy Land by Angra.


You have Kings of Metal there. Fine album but it's inexcusable to take precedence over Into Glory Ride or Sign of the Hammer, which are by far their most important and influential albums along with Hail to England.

Twilight in Olympus is definitely not the album I would choose to represent Symphony X, I'd start with Divine Wings, then Paradise Lost or V. Similarly, having A Dramatic Turn of Events in the list and NOT Awake is just WRONG man! :)

You need Snot - Get Some in the groove metal stuff. One of the best and most well-known albums in the genre.

Ah, I think I am not helping much, I keep looking at the list and I have extreme objections that could take all day. I think this list more or less represents your taste and not the most important albums (Hear in the New Frontier? Really? And no Empire or Promised Land or the EP? - Just no man!). Anyway,  I'll stop here because I don't have the time and I think you don't need some random dude telling you off about your choices! :P

Oh, but you should remove Chinese Democracy from the last list there. That album got negative feedback for everything else except for the music (which happens to be awesome): Because it bore the name Guns n Roses on the cover (no slash, no Guns, the people have spoken), because it took forever to be released and even dark Side of the moon could not live up to the expectations and because everyone hates Axl. 

You could add Pink bubbles go Ape or even better Chameleon. Endorama by Kreator. Diabolus in Musica by Slayer. 


Ooooh. Brilliant feedback. Cheers.




Metal Music News, Press Releases : ECHTRA Competition on Metal Music Archives

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Author:Time Signature
Subject: ECHTRA Competition on Metal Music Archives
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 2:33pm

Wanna win an Echtra CD? Then enter this competition!

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Metal Music Lounge : Most Important Albums Suggestions

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Author:Kingcrimsonprog
Subject: Most Important Albums Suggestions
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 3:29pm

Cool, I think that's them all added now.

My browser crashed halfway through and I had to do it twice Cry.



Ok.

As it stands now:

20 = Pre-Metal           20
15 = Psychedelic       35
39 = Prog                     76
23 = Rock                      99
8 = Southern               107
31  = Hard Rock          138
37  = Glam                   175
45  = NWOBHM etc. 220
52 = Thrash                272
11 = Groove                  283
48 = Death Metal       331
21 = Grind                    348
40 = Black Metal Spectrum      388
16 = Folk Metal           406
9 = Symphonic Metal 413
25 = Power Metal        444
61 = Prog Metal/Proggish Metal/Post-Metal  504
10 = Funk Metal                 514
18 = Industrial Metal        532
44 = Nu Metal Spectrum  578
6 = Southern Metal             582
13 = Grunge                          595
7 = Other Alternative            605
82 = Pop Punk/Punk/Hardcore/Crossover/OldMetalcore    685
51 = Stoner/Doom/Drone/Sludge                         735

36 = Modern Metalcore/Deathcore                       765

31 = Mathcore/Djent                                                  795
10 = Critical Failures                                                    805




Still shy on Black, Sludge and Post Metal.

General Music Discussions : Now -- what are you listening to? V2

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Author:rushfan4
Subject: Now -- what are you listening to? V2
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 3:53pm

Metal Music Lounge : Free legal Metal Mp3 downloads

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Author:Bosh66
Subject: Free legal Metal Mp3 downloads
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 4:11pm

Cheers Tupan, what a dick (me that is)LOL I've updated the post. Thanks for spotting it!  

Edited by Bosh66 - 21 May 2013 at 4:16pm

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Metal Music Lounge : Most Important Albums Suggestions

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Author:Time Signature
Subject: Most Important Albums Suggestions
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 4:49pm

Some more suggestions for the hardcore/crossover section:
I would probably add Nuclear Assault's "Handle With Care", since many people consider it one of the best thrash metal albums ever. I'd probably also add some Pro-Pain, but not sure which album it would be. I'd also suggest Wehrmacht's "Shark Attack" because it's somewhat of a cult release. another suggestion is The Kandidate's "Facing the Imminent Prospect of Death" as an example of a more recent crossover release which combines crust/hardcore, death and thrash. For another (probably more important) crust band, check out Hellbastard... they should probably also be on the list. Oh, and Extreme Noise Terror's "Holocaust in your Head" should defintiely be on the list - it's an important link between crust punk and grindcore.

Some black metal suggestions
I think that Celtic Frost's "Morbid Tales" should be on the list too, being an important link between crust, thrash and black metal. Although many black metal purists hate it, I think that Dimmu Borgir's "Abrahadabra" is an important contribution to symphonic black metal as is Carach Angren's "Where Corpses Sink Forever". The Secret (a former metalcore band) released an album last year called "Agnus Dei" which is a good example of modern crust/black metal, and Nadiwrath's "Nihilistic Stench" is perhaps obscure, but another good example of the more punky side of black metal. Oh, and perhaps you should include some releases from Havohej and Profanatica too.

And some traditional heavy metal:
Brats' "1980" is quite important I think: Brats was a punk band that would eventually evolve into Mercyful Fate, and "1980" captures them in the middle of that transition. Stormwitch's "Beauty and the Beast" should also be included because it features the awesome track 'Tigers of the Sea' ;-)

I'm also thinking that perhaps you should include some gothic rock / deathrock like Joy Division or Sisters of Mercy or Christian Death. They're obviously not metal, but it seems that the major death-doom acts of the 90s were very influenced by goth rock / deathrock.

Metal Music Lounge : Most Important Albums Suggestions

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Author:Time Signature
Subject: Most Important Albums Suggestions
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 4:51pm

Oh, and a new critical failure: Taterÿche's "Frequency Unknown" ;-)

General Music Discussions : Your recent non-metal purchases

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Author:vmoore
Subject: Your recent non-metal purchases
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 6:01pm

bought this from walmart. it is edited for the word fuck once in 2 songs so it isn't that edited. that is so dumb because fuck twice isn't that bad. oh well it doesn't really affect the songs much so whatever. I still like this band from when i was first getting into music.



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Metal Music Lounge : Most Important Albums Suggestions

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Author:Kingcrimsonprog
Subject: Most Important Albums Suggestions
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 6:55pm

Originally posted by Time Signature

Some more suggestions for the hardcore/crossover section:
I would probably add Nuclear Assault's "Handle With Care", since many people consider it one of the best thrash metal albums ever. I'd probably also add some Pro-Pain, but not sure which album it would be. I'd also suggest Wehrmacht's "Shark Attack" because it's somewhat of a cult release. another suggestion is The Kandidate's "Facing the Imminent Prospect of Death" as an example of a more recent crossover release which combines crust/hardcore, death and thrash. For another (probably more important) crust band, check out Hellbastard... they should probably also be on the list. Oh, and Extreme Noise Terror's "Holocaust in your Head" should defintiely be on the list - it's an important link between crust punk and grindcore.

Some black metal suggestions
I think that Celtic Frost's "Morbid Tales" should be on the list too, being an important link between crust, thrash and black metal. Although many black metal purists hate it, I think that Dimmu Borgir's "Abrahadabra" is an important contribution to symphonic black metal as is Carach Angren's "Where Corpses Sink Forever". The Secret (a former metalcore band) released an album last year called "Agnus Dei" which is a good example of modern crust/black metal, and Nadiwrath's "Nihilistic Stench" is perhaps obscure, but another good example of the more punky side of black metal. Oh, and perhaps you should include some releases from Havohej and Profanatica too.

And some traditional heavy metal:
Brats' "1980" is quite important I think: Brats was a punk band that would eventually evolve into Mercyful Fate, and "1980" captures them in the middle of that transition. Stormwitch's "Beauty and the Beast" should also be included because it features the awesome track 'Tigers of the Sea' ;-)

I'm also thinking that perhaps you should include some gothic rock / deathrock like Joy Division or Sisters of Mercy or Christian Death. They're obviously not metal, but it seems that the major death-doom acts of the 90s were very influenced by goth rock / deathrock.


Wow. I'm a giant Nuclear Assault fan, and I've heard of music by Dimmu and Celctic Frost, but other than that I haven't heard of any of that.

(Well I read the name "Extreme Noise Terror" in Napalm Death linear notes, but that hardly counts lol)

I'll check it out, see if it fits. Cheers.

Metal Music Lounge : Most Important Albums Suggestions

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Author:Kingcrimsonprog
Subject: Most Important Albums Suggestions
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 7:01pm

Originally posted by Time Signature

Oh, and a new critical failure: Taterÿche's "Frequency Unknown" ;-)

Aha. I had considered that actually. LOL

General discussions : Recently Watched Films

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Author:Stooge
Subject: Recently Watched Films
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 8:27pm

Just finished Robocop 3.


Was about as good as the other 2 despite having a different guy play Robocop.  Surprised to see a few people in there (Stephen Root, Jeff Garlin, and that guy who played George's boss Kruger on Seinfeld).

Metal Music News, Press Releases : Queensrÿche: Album cover and track list revealed

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Author:Tupan
Subject: Queensrÿche: Album cover and track list revealed
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 8:28pm

Originally posted by vmoore

both  Todd LaTorre songs are great can't wait for the album. It is about time they put out a good album. Hope they continue doing albums after this one. if time travel was possible then I would or someone should travel back in time and get Geoff Tate booted from the band a long time ago. I will definatley buy the cd when it comes out

Yeah, both very good songs, though my favorite is Redemption.


General Music Discussions : Now -- what are you listening to? V2

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Author:vmoore
Subject: Now -- what are you listening to? V2
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 10:36pm

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General Polls : Is living in an "anti bullying" society realistic?

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Author:Balthamel
Subject: Is living in an "anti bullying" society realistic?
Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:32am

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

The more parents, schools (not that they ever actually do anything),  and society in general strive to "baby-proof" the world, the worse it is for the kids in the long run.  There is nothing that has ever shown otherwise.
I tend to agree with this, ass long as there also is hormones, feelings and emotions, around, there will be different people in society no matter how much politicians, governmental, or the bureaucratic society wants to even out social, cultural, political or economic differences, there will be different people from different backgrounds, that can lead to bullying. 

Polls : Tool vs. Nine Inch Nails

Polls : Tool vs. Nine Inch Nails

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Author:Balthamel
Subject: Tool vs. Nine Inch Nails
Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:41am

both are pivotal bands in the metal world, and deserves respect, i tend to lean towards Tool overall, but NIN is also quite good, and are good live. 
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